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I can handle being a survivalist and witnessing the
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of the aftermath but I wouldn't want to live in a world
contaminated by radiation. The medical infrastructure
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be gone and people would be suffering from the effects
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the nukes which would mean that survival would be
questionable and miserable. Doesn't sound fun.
The medical infrastructure might continue to function; the
military has their act together in this respect. There's
redundancy and stand-alone capability that medical
should still be in place. The problem would be a massive
shortage of medical supplies, particularly blood products.
Anyone who survives the blast effects of an air burst but
close enough to get a beefy dose of radiation will
bone-marrow suppression, leading to severe anemia and a
life-threatening reduction in platelets. Many of these
would require from 1-5 units of whole blood or packed red
plus platelets daily. That adds up to a *hell* of a lot
Sounds like something I'd rather not be around for.
In what I consider a feasible scenario, a group of
could seize control over a soviet missile silo, disable
security features, and lob an SS-18 at LA or NYC. The
would distribute 10 warheads of 500 or 750 kilotons each
wide area, air-bursting at 3-4000 feet. I would guestimate
much as 200,000 fatalities from blast effect, and at least
million people would receive an eventually-fatal radiation
There's no way that blood could be delivered to the area
sufficient quantities. Patients would be triaged
visible signs of dosage; anyone who's losing hair and/or
would be set aside to wait in vain for blood that won't
in time. It wouldn't be pretty.
Reagan's Star Wars idea is sounding like a good idea right
Radiation sickness is particularly nasty; I know exactly
it feels like, since I had 13 sessions of total-body
before my bone marrow transplant. Without multiple daily
transfusions of blood products, you simply will not
the limited scenario I described, there would be a million
more patients lying in overcrowded hospital hallways,
schools, warehouses, and anywhere that has space
dying from anemia or bleeding out from lack of platelets.
the medical staff in the US wouldn't be of help if blood
available immediately. In the worst case, where Russia
their entire arsenal (and we do the same), we'd have this
scenario in 100 or more american population centers. I
want to survive that and have to cope with the aftermath.
breakdown of the transportation system is virtually
resulting in nationwide food shortages. A few days
will turn law-abiding average citizens into desperados.
now I did a quick survey of my kitchen cabinets, and I
about a month's worth of canned goods, dried beans, rice,
forth. Assuming I survive a nuke exchange, I will have to
defend my food supply from roving bands of hungry,
people. On hand I have only a .357 mag, 100 rounds of
a 10.5 lb Les Paul for close-in combat. I don't think
able to hold them off for long. I do, however, take pity
whomever is on the receiving end of my Les Paul, El
The people at most risk are the devout mormons, who are
commanded to keep a 1-2 year food supply. They'd better
armed to the teeth if they hope to defend their stash.
I wouldn't be defending a damn thing, my truck would be
headed to Mexico at haul-ass speed. Nobody is gonna bomb
Mexico and the weather is great. If I could get far enough
south to avoid the radiation I might be OK.
In reality, I don't think an all-out nuke exchange is
However, I do think it's highly likely that we'll see a
event in the US or Israel within the next 5 years. Given
growing availability of nuclear material and technology,
growing number of extremists, it seems inevitable.
If we got the fuck out of the middle east (and stopped
supporting Israel) we might avoid that bomb going off in the
US. Since we negotiate with terrorists in Israel why can't
we negotiate a truce with the Islamic radicals and Arab
countries that we will completely pull out of the middle
east and stop supporting Israel in exchange for a free pass
from terrorism on US soil or embassies. I think they'd go