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24.75 scale guitar with single coil in bridge?
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hc
2004-05-10 14:09:09 UTC
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Any suggestions? Preferably a Gibson LP double-cuttish kinda budget guitar.
Thanks.
miker
2004-05-10 14:31:58 UTC
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Obvious choice is a Hamer with P90's, no?
Post by hc
Any suggestions? Preferably a Gibson LP double-cuttish kinda budget guitar.
Thanks.
I of the Storm
2004-05-10 14:57:41 UTC
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Post by hc
Any suggestions? Preferably a Gibson LP double-cuttish kinda budget guitar.
Thanks.
http://www.rondomusic.bigstep.com/item.jhtml;$sessionid$N5ZD22YAAALTTTZENUGUTIWPERWRJPX0?UCIDs=850849%7C940498&PRID=1325855

http://tinyurl.com/2avoa

This jumps to mind. These guitars have an excellent reputation.
Zorrro_2k
2004-05-10 18:59:50 UTC
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Post by hc
Any suggestions? Preferably a Gibson LP double-cuttish kinda budget guitar.
Thanks.
By the guitar you want having a bridge humbucker, and replace the
standard bridge humbucker with a humbucker which allows coil-tapping
and use a push-pull pot to go between full humbucker and single-coil.
ManWithTheLowEnd
2004-05-10 22:03:59 UTC
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I seem to remember that the PRS SE soapbar could do you.

It might be a 25" scale tho'

J
Post by hc
Any suggestions? Preferably a Gibson LP double-cuttish kinda budget guitar.
Thanks.
Harry Rowe
2004-05-11 13:31:00 UTC
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Post by ManWithTheLowEnd
I seem to remember that the PRS SE soapbar could do you.
It might be a 25" scale tho'
Yep, the PRS' are 25"

The P90s do sound great on them though!

I was just trying one last night but went with the Godin LG.

Regards,

Harry
Rick Wilson
2004-05-11 00:31:49 UTC
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Post by hc
Any suggestions? Preferably a Gibson LP double-cuttish kinda budget guitar.
Thanks.
Look for one of those older Gibson SG or LP Junior models with P-90s. Those
were awesome guitars. Gibson still makes a couple of P-90 equiped guitars,
including the cheaper Faded Les Paul DC. Or, you could buy one of those 24
3/4" conversion necks and slap it on a Strat.

Rick
Harry Rowe
2004-05-11 13:33:35 UTC
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Or, you
could buy one of those 24 3/4" conversion necks and slap it on a
Strat.
Rick
Would that work? I was told by some local techs that there would
be no way for it to stay in tune. There is not enough room to adjust
the saddles.

I asked because I was researching short scale guitars.

Regards,

Harry
Rick Wilson
2004-05-11 14:36:55 UTC
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Post by Rick Wilson
Or, you
could buy one of those 24 3/4" conversion necks and slap it on a
Strat.
Rick
Would that work? I was told by some local techs that there would
be no way for it to stay in tune. There is not enough room to adjust
the saddles.
I asked because I was researching short scale guitars.
Regards,
Harry
Honestly, I don't know. I've just seen them advertised in the magazines.

Rick

BTW, them Godin LGs are nice axes. I've played a few and never seen a sour
one. When I get some money...
miker
2004-05-11 16:11:12 UTC
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Post by Rick Wilson
Or, you
could buy one of those 24 3/4" conversion necks and slap it on a
Strat.
Would that work? I was told by some local techs that there would
be no way for it to stay in tune. There is not enough room to adjust
the saddles.
It all depends how the neck is made. If they make the neck the right length
to put the nut at the right distance from the center of the bridge saddle
adjustment, no sweat. Actually less than no sweat, since on a shorter scale
neck a smaller movement of the bridge will have the same effect.

Or consider this... you can actually get a shorter scale on a Strat by just
putting a capo on the first fret. Is it still in tune up the neck?

miker
hc
2004-05-12 13:48:14 UTC
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Thanks for interesting posts everyone.
I'm playing a cheap epi through a digitec 100 with lots of distortion
and corus, and my friend bugded strat-copy set on the black bridge pu
sounds much better on this set-up. How is the P90 and the P100 to the
strat single coil?

hc
Rick Wilson
2004-05-12 15:09:30 UTC
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Post by hc
Thanks for interesting posts everyone.
I'm playing a cheap epi through a digitec 100 with lots of distortion
and corus, and my friend bugded strat-copy set on the black bridge pu
sounds much better on this set-up. How is the P90 and the P100 to the
strat single coil?
hc
The P-90 has a more pronounced midrange than a Strat would have. The P-100
is a stacked humbucker version of the P-90. If you're just looking for an
upgrade to the Epiphone you've got, look into some replacement pickups for
it. There's a bunch of manufacturers that make a humbucker sized P-90.

Rio Grande Bastard
Gibson P-94
etc.
Les Cargill
2004-05-13 00:45:50 UTC
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Post by hc
Thanks for interesting posts everyone.
I'm playing a cheap epi through a digitec 100 with lots of distortion
and corus, and my friend bugded strat-copy set on the black bridge pu
sounds much better on this set-up. How is the P90 and the P100 to the
strat single coil?
hc
Go try another cheap Epi, the LP Juniors, down at GC. All
my opinion, but those things are major bang for the buck.

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Les Cargill
Dana Craft
2004-05-13 02:27:11 UTC
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 00:45:50 GMT, Les Cargill
Post by Les Cargill
Post by hc
Thanks for interesting posts everyone.
I'm playing a cheap epi through a digitec 100 with lots of distortion
and corus, and my friend bugded strat-copy set on the black bridge pu
sounds much better on this set-up. How is the P90 and the P100 to the
strat single coil?
hc
Go try another cheap Epi, the LP Juniors, down at GC. All
my opinion, but those things are major bang for the buck.
Les, are you talking about the bolt-ons with the P90? I saw one once
in a Sam Goody's - horribly set up and no amp to try it on. But it
looked appealing, construction was decent. Just no way to tell if it
had deeper problems due to lack of even a reasonable setup. I dimly
recall a 'Made in China' sticker. I was looking for a P90 guitar at
the time. And I didn't feel comfortable buying a guitar there and
dealing with those clerks if I had to bring it back.

If I see one next time I'm in GC, I'll take another look. Before I
got my faded LP DC, I considered slapping a P90 onto a cheapo Hamer -
a little more expensive option than the Epi. Finally, I just bought
the Gibson for $599.

I did see some faded Melody Makers with P90s in GC Columbus (OH) last
year- didn't like the feel of the neck though, I actually preferred
the Epi.

Dana
Les Cargill
2004-05-13 21:48:45 UTC
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Post by Dana Craft
On Thu, 13 May 2004 00:45:50 GMT, Les Cargill
Post by Les Cargill
Post by hc
Thanks for interesting posts everyone.
I'm playing a cheap epi through a digitec 100 with lots of distortion
and corus, and my friend bugded strat-copy set on the black bridge pu
sounds much better on this set-up. How is the P90 and the P100 to the
strat single coil?
hc
Go try another cheap Epi, the LP Juniors, down at GC. All
my opinion, but those things are major bang for the buck.
Les, are you talking about the bolt-ons with the P90? I saw one once
in a Sam Goody's - horribly set up and no amp to try it on.
Those are fixable, especially with a bolt on neck - so long
as the neck sights out and isn't too warped.
Post by Dana Craft
But it
looked appealing, construction was decent. Just no way to tell if it
had deeper problems due to lack of even a reasonable setup.
You can tell most of what you need to know from an
G or E chord, unplugged. If it ringa good, it'd be worth
trying to get a setup on it to try out.

It's a reject-a-thon guitar. It's a specialty item, one
pickup, for that one sound.
Post by Dana Craft
I dimly
recall a 'Made in China' sticker. I was looking for a P90 guitar at
the time. And I didn't feel comfortable buying a guitar there and
dealing with those clerks if I had to bring it back.
If I see one next time I'm in GC, I'll take another look. Before I
got my faded LP DC, I considered slapping a P90 onto a cheapo Hamer -
a little more expensive option than the Epi. Finally, I just bought
the Gibson for $599.
It's not a bad deal, either. It's just not stupid-cheap like
the Epis.
Post by Dana Craft
I did see some faded Melody Makers with P90s in GC Columbus (OH) last
year- didn't like the feel of the neck though, I actually preferred
the Epi.
I'm not sure te Gibson isn't the better deal as a long
term instrument, but the Epi is so cheap...
Post by Dana Craft
Dana
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Les Cargill
Dana Craft
2004-05-15 00:11:11 UTC
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 21:48:45 GMT, Les Cargill
Post by Les Cargill
Post by Dana Craft
On Thu, 13 May 2004 00:45:50 GMT, Les Cargill
Post by Les Cargill
Post by hc
Thanks for interesting posts everyone.
I'm playing a cheap epi through a digitec 100 with lots of distortion
and corus, and my friend bugded strat-copy set on the black bridge pu
sounds much better on this set-up. How is the P90 and the P100 to the
strat single coil?
hc
Go try another cheap Epi, the LP Juniors, down at GC. All
my opinion, but those things are major bang for the buck.
Les, are you talking about the bolt-ons with the P90? I saw one once
in a Sam Goody's - horribly set up and no amp to try it on.
Those are fixable, especially with a bolt on neck - so long
as the neck sights out and isn't too warped.
When I see another one, I'll take a longer look. Preferably in a
guitar store.
Post by Les Cargill
Post by Dana Craft
But it
looked appealing, construction was decent. Just no way to tell if it
had deeper problems due to lack of even a reasonable setup.
You can tell most of what you need to know from an
G or E chord, unplugged. If it ringa good, it'd be worth
trying to get a setup on it to try out.
I have no luthier skills whatsoever and have never done a truss rod
adjustment. For that reason, I wasn't comfortable with what I had in
my hands and recognizing that I was in a book & CD store where the
help were no help - I passed. And no amp to base the sound on.

Based on the feel and the build quality though for the price, I was
tempted.
Post by Les Cargill
It's a reject-a-thon guitar. It's a specialty item, one
pickup, for that one sound.
Post by Dana Craft
I dimly
recall a 'Made in China' sticker. I was looking for a P90 guitar at
the time. And I didn't feel comfortable buying a guitar there and
dealing with those clerks if I had to bring it back.
If I see one next time I'm in GC, I'll take another look. Before I
got my faded LP DC, I considered slapping a P90 onto a cheapo Hamer -
a little more expensive option than the Epi. Finally, I just bought
the Gibson for $599.
It's not a bad deal, either. It's just not stupid-cheap like
the Epis.
Yeah, it was tempting at that price - barely over $100. I recall an
older post of yours praising them as well.
Post by Les Cargill
Post by Dana Craft
I did see some faded Melody Makers with P90s in GC Columbus (OH) last
year- didn't like the feel of the neck though, I actually preferred
the Epi.
I'm not sure te Gibson isn't the better deal as a long
term instrument, but the Epi is so cheap...
Actually, I liked the Epi feel & profile over the MMs. They felt like
planks.

SuperX
2004-05-11 09:14:34 UTC
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Gibson Melody Maker...holding one right now, it's an amazing guitar, and
they're really underrated, they sell for cheap (for a real 60s era Gibson
that is)...there's a double-pickup version. In fact, I have two.

But you can also pick up a humbucker-to-single-coil adapter plate from
guitarresource.com that works just fine.
Post by hc
Any suggestions? Preferably a Gibson LP double-cuttish kinda budget guitar.
Thanks.
Harry Rowe
2004-05-11 13:34:09 UTC
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Post by hc
Any suggestions? Preferably a Gibson LP double-cuttish kinda budget
guitar. Thanks.
Godin LGs are very nice for the money.

Regards,

Harry
Terry Cursillo
2004-05-13 23:16:14 UTC
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You can get a short scale neck for a Telecaster from a couple of
companies. The Tele is the best single coil in bridge guitar there is
if you don't need a trem.
hc
2004-05-14 11:44:00 UTC
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Post by Terry Cursillo
You can get a short scale neck for a Telecaster from a couple of
companies. The Tele is the best single coil in bridge guitar there is
if you don't need a trem.
What companies?

hc
Terry Cursillo
2004-05-14 20:17:24 UTC
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Post by hc
Post by Terry Cursillo
You can get a short scale neck for a Telecaster from a couple of
companies. The Tele is the best single coil in bridge guitar there is
if you don't need a trem.
What companies?
I know Warmoth does and I think "the other one"-can't remember their
name-does as well. I believe the Bunker people may as well but their
necks are different in that they have a big metal stressed member and
a large "truss rod" cover-they're not Fender style-but they fit
Fenders. If that doesn't bother you I think the concept sounds good.
The actual wood neck is completely stress-free in this design and it's
supposed to sound really impressive, but I haven't held or played one.
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